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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:58 pm

Alright, I made a rather extensive set of alias's with only 8 triggers working them (about 90 alias's) for questing. but I ran into this small problem...

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:00 pm

As you can see, I've already got all of the needed areas on alias ... just need a way for them to fit ... or not disappear ... I would just make a second trigger ... but can't do that ? Dunno, I'm not the trigger expert Mr. Green

Sorcerer Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 706 Location: USA

What do you mean by "single area"?

Wizard Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Posts: 1644 Location: USA

I don't understand whats happening or doing, or not doing and I swear I've read it 5 times?!?

6 times now

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:05 pm

It's a MUD. Each area has alot of rooms in it , room names. So the triggers are by the area with if/then statements for the room name in that area. The problem I'm having is that if you put too much text in the zmud command box, the stuff on the top scrolls off

IF ("%1"="Roomname") {relatedalias} is the general setup

Wizard Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Posts: 1644 Location: USA

But it still goes in right? I am still not seeing a problem anywhere and I recreated your trigger without a problem.

Wanderer Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 99

For large scripts, it may be more helpful to edit the aliases and triggers from inside zmud's editor. Open it by clicking on the "Aliases" or "Triggers" buttons at the top of the zmud screen and edit them directly.

Novice Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 31

Um... I'm not sure I understand the question.

Er, is what you're saying that you're trying to put in your settings but they don't fit?

This might or might not help, but at the top, click on the "windows" tab, then click on "editor". Type in your settings there and just hit send. Or look up the "#READ" command.

I'm probably wrong, but that's what it sounds like what you're talking about :)

Sorcerer Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 706 Location: USA

So are you saying you can't see all of your #IF Statements in the editor? Then it could be a limitation. I guess you should let Zugg know if that is the case.

Another idea to fix this is to group certain types of quests into specific aliases which will call another alias.
If we can get a few examples of your aliases maybe we can come up with a way to group them.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:44 pm

All the alias's are are just the directions (pq101-pq193). I"ll say it again.

The Zmud Script (The command box) DELETES SOME OF THE TRIGGER (they scroll off and stop working). If you still don't understand then you can't help me. Basically, that trigger I posted up there actually has about 20 more rooms ... which were deleted off by zmud.

Wizard Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 1127 Location: London

Generally if you're asking for help then it's better not to be rude to the people attempting to help you, especially when your original description of the problem is somewhat lacking.

Okay, so you have a trigger whose output is being cut short... there are those 20 or so lines that you've listed but another 20 or so have been deleted by zMud?

Post the entire trigger, the bit you tried to put in before it got cut short by zMud, because there's nothing we can do if we only see what you're being left with - we need to see what you started with to see if we can replicate the problem or fix it.

On a separate note, surely some sort of forall or loop would be better suited to the trigger, rather than 40 If statements... but that's for another topic.

Wanderer Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 99

We'll start with the nomenclature issue:
The command box (as defined only in Introduction to Multiplaying- Reference: http://forums.zuggsoft.com/modules/mx_kb/kb.php?page=3&mode=doc&k=112 is also known as The command input line (as defined in Introduction to Aliases - Reference: http://forums.zuggsoft.com/modules/mx_kb/kb.php?page=3&mode=doc&k=105
We will start assuming you are referring to the Alias Settings Editor (as defined in Introduction to Aliases - Reference: http://forums.zuggsoft.com/modules/mx_kb/kb.php?page=3&mode=doc&k=105 since you appear to be getting frustrated by the answer when the question is what is lacking information.

On to attempting to get more information.
How many lines is this trigger in total inside the Trigger Settings Editor?
Is it possible it is just the Pretty Printing that is deleting your script? (Preferences->Script Parser->Pretty Printing)
Sometimes it interferes with saving a script over a previous one.

GURU Joined: 23 Dec 2000 Posts: 4834 Location: USA

I believe he's trying to enter the trigger into the command-line, which DOES have a character/line limit somewhere in the vicinity of 8 lines of text in a game window that stretches from one side of the (15") screen to the other. The text editor (CTRL-SHIFT-ENTER) and the Settings Editor do not have any such limits.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:47 pm

Wanderer Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 99

Right Matt, that was my initial conclusion as well.
Yes Talon, by using the text editor or the Settings Editor as described above, you can create much larger scripts. The settings editor allows editing of classes, aliases, triggers, etc.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:51 pm

Alright, so i've never used that text editor before, how do I get it to work in combination with my triggers?

Novice Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 31

Type your triggers in and press "send".

And hey hey hey look who guessed the answer first? Laughing

Apprentice Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 135

The settings editor will show all your settings for you, or you can specify just certain types to view.

At the top of your main zMud window you should have buttons or words reading something like "Setting Aliases Variables Triggers, etc". Clicking on any of those will open up the settings editor. Or, you can access the editor via the menu Settings > Edit Settings.

You can create new settings and modify exiting ones as well.

So, if you want to modify that trigger, access the editor, find the trigger and then you can modify it's content.

Here's a link on the Settings Editor.
http://www.zuggsoft.com/page.php?file=zmud/help6/Settings.htm

Wanderer Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 99

For information on the Settings Editor, I have already provided a few links describing how to use them as well on the previous page.

Sorcerer Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 706 Location: USA

talonfreak2003 said

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:15 pm

Oh, that editor is what I've always used... but it will still scroll commands off the top. they just disappear after a certain amt of text.

Wanderer Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 99

At this point I am going to have to agree with everyone else. We are going to need to see the entire script so we can reproduce the problem.
Also, which version of zMud are you using?

Apprentice Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 121

Might I suggest using a db var in this case? Seems like it would be a little more efficient.

Pattern:

Sorcerer Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 706 Location: USA

I took OmegasDeus suggestion and created this script for you.. This will do what you want.

Beginner Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 19

I don't know if this would help any but if it is a large number of commands that you need to run instead of using aliases you could use the #READ command, I find it quite helpful.