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Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

hi, i just got the new version of zmud, and noticed when i booted into my game, that the usual sound affect that the game sets off didn't go off. i checked and several other things that usually cause the sounds to work didn't work. im curious that since they were working BEFORE i got the upgrade what i need to do now to get them to work again. Thanks.

Niax Rhasu

GURU Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 1958 Location: Canada

View->Preferences->Sounds

Check the paths

It could be something like
windowsmediachimes.wav
and you run from winnt
winntmediachimes.wav

Ton Diening

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

im not talking about the ZMUD sound, im talking about a sound affect that uses the sound protocal from the mudd itself. I know im not the only person to have this problem. I've never had the ZMUD loading sound affect to work, and to be honest i don't care. Its the INGAME sound affects that i like. And to be honest, i don't want to spend hours setting up manual triggers for the same things the game itself does for me.

Niax Rhasu

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

replace all affect's with effects. that would make more sense i thinkg. :P

Niax Rhasu

GURU Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 1958 Location: Canada

MSP?

View->Preferences->Sounds, MSP General
[x] Enable MUD Sound Protocol
[x] Enable sound downloading

I logged into a SWR MSP mud and it has given me abunch of MSP Sounds
which I can see in
View->Preferences->Sounds, MSP Sounds

Firing a blaster makes a sound effect.

Ton Diening

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

i was unaware of the msp options there. so, i tried it. to no avail.

Let me try to explain this again because i think that i might have forgot some things.

I downloaded seperatly the sound pack for the game i play. It gets put into a sound folder directly in the mud folder in the zmud program file folder. Before i got this upgrade on zmud, my sounds WORKED. NOw, with 6.55, i logged onto my game, and the initial INGAME sound effect didn't work. the combat sound effects didn't work. none of them worked. Could this be a bug in zmud, because before i got the new version of zmud or the patch or whatever i downloaded, my msp for the game i play actually worked.

I came onto the message board hoping that it was something easy to fix. I appreciate your suggestions though. Although they didn't work. :( Is there anything else i should try?

Niax Rhasu

MASTER Joined: 28 Nov 2000 Posts: 4817 Location: USA

You switched from a public version to a BETA one, or upgraded a previous BETA version to a later one, and things suddenly work differently (i.e., don't work). The correct place to ask about/discuss/report these difficulties is (of course) the BETA forum.

LightBulb
Advanced Member

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

LOL so basically you are telling me that it is a bug, and are unwilling to help. *sigh*

Niax Rhasu

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

well, i tried to post it on your 'BETA' forum. but apparently i don't have access. so much for that.

am it to expect to get my sounds back in the next 'BETA' version of zmud i get?

Niax Rhasu

SubAdmin Joined: 18 Nov 2001 Posts: 5182

There is a little thing called an Application Form for the beta forum. Simply fill it out and you will have access.

GURU Joined: 26 Jul 2001 Posts: 1958 Location: Canada

Oops my fault for replying initially. Best to keep the forums separate so not to
confuse people with the public release.

http://www.zuggsoft.com/forum/default.asp
zMUD Beta Forum
Discussion and comments about the latest Beta versions of zMUD. Access to this forum is restricted. To get access, fill out the Application Form.

Ton Diening

MASTER Joined: 28 Nov 2000 Posts: 4817 Location: USA

No, I'm not saying it's a bug (or that it's not). Nor am I saying I'm unwilling to help. I'm simply pointing out that sudden changes in how zMUD operates, that occur simultaneously with installing a beta version, are likely to be related to the fact that it's a beta version. You are more likely to find the help you need if you look in the right place for it.

LightBulb
Advanced Member

Novice Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 41 Location: USA

the last 3 times i went to the Application Form my system crased so iv stoped tring. i use the beta becouse a feater i needed to make the maper work with the edge of darkness was added after 6.4 i plan to stay with the next public version.

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

bah usually i get decent help off this message board, but this is ridiculus. i want my bloody sounds back, its not my fault, and i just want to know how to fix it. I AM USING AN ALPHA VERSION OF ZMUD RIGHT NOW. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A BETA VERSION OF ZMUD. Someone that actually knows what they are talking about help me fix my GODDAMN SOUNDS PLEASE!@!#@!@

Niax Rhasu

MASTER Joined: 28 Nov 2000 Posts: 4817 Location: USA

I notice you still haven't posted on the Beta forum.

Where did you find an Alpha version? I'm fairly certain that if Zugg releases those at all, it's only to a few hand-picked people who are very familiar with zMUD and programming.

I notice from your responses that you somehow believe the sounds are provided directly from the MUD, even though you "downloaded seperatly the sound pack for the game i play...put into a sound folder". The sounds are provided from the soundfiles ON YOUR COMPUTER. The files in the soundpack you DOWNLOADED and PUT INTO A SOUND FOLDER. So, perhaps you should try what TonDiening suggested in his first reply...CHECK THE PATHS!

Given the rudeness you displayed in your last post, I retract my earlier statement. I am no longer willing to help.

LightBulb
Advanced Member

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

so what does 6.55a mean? :/

ANYWAY I FOUND OUT THE PROBLEM ON MY OWNSELF, AND FOR ALL OF YOU POOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND ARE AS CONFUSED AS I WAS HERE WE GO:

Snowleaf
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Posts: 59
Location: Los Angeles, CA
14 Posted: 03-21-2003 03:19 am Post subject: Sounds stop working with Zmud 6.55a upgrade.

The new version of ZMUD breaks sounds from working when you upgrade. To get them to work you must select View > Preferences > Sounds and then select MXP and make sure the check box next to Enable Mud eXtension Protocol is unchecked. Sound will work again.

If you see things like this

!!SOUND(mm_door_open.mp3 V=100 L=1 P=50 T=misc)
click the + next to Sounds and select MSP General and make sure the checkbox next to Echo MSP triggers is unchecked.

Thanks to Zore for figuring out that it was MXP that was stopping the sounds from playing.

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Niax Rhasu

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

i don't see the differenct between posting here or the beta forum, since the problem isn't in a beta version of zmud i don't see the point. it seems to me you guys are pretty anal, but i appreciate the LITTLE help i receieved even though it was all irrelevant. it'll make me think twice before turning to the creators of the software for help.

Niax Rhasu

Novice Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 39

quote:

i don't see the differenct between posting here or the beta forum, since the problem isn't in a beta version of zmud i don't see the point. it seems to me you guys are pretty anal, but i appreciate the LITTLE help i receieved even though it was all irrelevant. it'll make me think twice before turning to the creators of the software for help.

6.55 IS a beta version. It doesn't matter if it has an 'a' after the name, it is still a beta. As such, posts regarding it should be in the beta forum. If you want access to the beta forum, fill out the beta application http://www.zuggsoft.com/forum/beta_app.asp

GURU Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 4379 Location: USA

Fist, Zugg never releases alpha versions. Those versions are for himself only (and might not even exist since I notice that he sometimes skips a few version numbers between beta releases). Whenever a version has a letter besides the version number it means that it was some quick fix to fix a serious bug and Zugg didn't want to change the version number for such a small change.

Second, posts about the beta version do go in the Beta Forum. This helps to keep the forum organized. People that do not use the beta version have no reason to be bothered by posts about the beta version. Also, Zugg generally answers posts in the Beta Forum during beta testing periods so any possible bugs reported are more likely to grab his attention over there and what was happening to you does indeed sound like a bug since MXP is not supposed to interfere with MSP. However, to properly identify this as a bug and fix it (if it is a bug)would require some information about the problem from you, the MUD where it is happening and how to reproduce it. It may also be possible that you may find the answer to your question about the beta version in the Beta Forum since that is where discussion of the newest beta takes place.

Finally, do remember that everyone posting in these forums (with the exceptiong of Zugg and Chiara of course) are normal zMUD users like everyone else and they are doing it to help. No one here is required to help others and that desire to help generally goes away when others do not appreciate it.

Kjata

Beginner Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 21

so why even bother having another forum if you are going to discourage people from using it for whatever reason. there is no need to downgrade me, i don't pretend to know everything like some of the people with 12312312312 posts on this website. i asked a question, and have been criticized for asking. if it makes you anal people happy i will go to this other forum you keep telling me i am supposed to post on even though i allegedly need to apply for it. to me, this seems stupid because i already have access to this forum and don't see the point in having to apply for every single one on this website.

i understand that people help because they want to, but this thread wasn't about me, its about why my sounds wouldn't work. and the fact that you won't help because its the wrong forum is stupid. i don't care about orginization, i care about how i enjoy my game experiance. something that i hope you try to do as well.

and to say the very least, it has not been a pleasent experiance for me since all i got in return is a bunch of hot air because i, "used the wrong forum"

im a gamer, not an uber 1337 MB p0st3r. (please note the sarcasm)

BUT not to get under all of your skin's as i apparently have since i "used the wrong forum" i shall go ahead, and as i have said, post it there. since im all under edumicated in the ways of the MB.

Niax Rhasu

GURU Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 4379 Location: USA

Sorry, if you don't like the way things are organized around here, but that is the way it is. You might also not like how things are organized and handled in a government office, but you still need to do things that way.

Like I said, posting questions and bugs about the beta version in the Beta Forum has its reasons and it is not simply because we feel like it. People that don't use beta versions do not need to be bothered by posts about those versions.

Also, beta versions are not for everyone. Users who install and use a beta version are (or at least should be) aware that it is a beta version, it may contain bugs, and you use the Beta Forum to talk about it. The readme file included with beta versions also informs you that it is a beta version and that you should post reports in the Beta Forum. If you are using beta versions just to have the latest version (and not to help report and fix bugs), you should at least have access to the Beta Forum and keep up with the posts there.

I'm locking the thread now since there is nothing more to be said.

Kjata

GURU Joined: 24 Sep 2000 Posts: 1237 Location: USA

Actually, I'll add just a little, some fun, some useless, all in good intention.

Niax, nobody should have ripped your head off, and in reading through the posts, it looks like that might have been miscommunicated. Sorry for the trouble - I'm sure none was intended.

The Beta Forum is separate just so Zugg can review it more easily than he can this forum. It tends to have fewer posts from more experienced users who are used to reporting problems.

Access to the Beta forum is free and automatic. The application form is just to make you aware of the tendencies for Betas to have bugs, and the expectation that people using Beta versions will helpfully report them. Zuggsoft betas are usually public so they'll get widely tested.

Alpha versions of zMUD aren't publicly available (despite what the letter after a version number might imply - those 'a's and 'b's don't signify 'alpha' or 'beta'). They have sporadically existed in the past and were given as unique previews to upcoming beta versions to select users - frequently just to test a specific function or command. I've played with a few - trust me, you're better off with Betas

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