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Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

Hi @All,

is it possible to delay an alias if a trigger is set on the same event?
Explanation: I use "ll" as an alias to look and want to set a complete
roomreload with it but i need the info from a trigger that is collection
and defining roomdata with the "ll" commandinput.

I tried #WAIT but i think it only fires after the ali is completed because i
got empy return vars in the ali and filled ones afterwards.

Thanks Razz

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Could you describe in a bit more detail what you want? I don't think I'm quite clear on it.

What I _think_ you are saying is you have a script, which does some stuff, and causes some thing to happen which should fire a trigger. You want this script to pause until after the trigger has executed, and then continue. Is that correct? If that is the case, there are several options, but you will have to give us a lot more detail on exactly what the script is doing, what is coming from the mud, and what the trigger is doing with it.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

What i mean is, i have an ALIAS and a TRIGGER both fiering on the same text.
My problem is, the trigger must fire before the alias.

Hope it is clearer now? :)

Thanks

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

It is clearer, but I don't see how an _alias_ can be firing on text. Unless you mean that the trigger is an oninput trigger, and the input it is firing on is also an alias. Which is a bit odd, but concievable.

If that is the case, all you have to do is make sure that the trigger has a lower priority number than the alias. If it is not the case, I'm afraid you'll have to explain how an alias and a trigger are firing on the same text. A specific example might be the best help.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

Yep it's a bit weird :) but thats what i am doing hehe ;)
Ok change priority, sounds easy. Ill try and write my results here.

Thanks!!

Wizard Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 1547

Confused. Why not just have what the alias does be in the trigger and come after the first part? Why are they separate to begin with? If you share the script we can help a bit more.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

Ok, i'll share it :) the first part (the trigger) get's the room infos and the alias is to rewrite rooms that exists.
maybe i can share the complete package? but simple first:

Wizard Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 1547

Actually, the explanation was bit better this time and that alone may help. Unfortunately I have some network issues on my Desktop to fix and a house to clean. I'll come take a look at this later if Rahab hasn't already solved this mystery for you.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

I think this is a bit too much code and maybe its not all selfexplanational.
If you WANT to look at it, give it a try, otherwise ill build a workaround which
disables the trigger and reactivates it.
I know its my biggest coding project in CMUD for now and there are many glitches and edges
where i could improve my code. The debugging info messes the whole thing up, sorry that i did not
give you clean code to look at, so if you dont wanna puzzle, play mud and dont waste your time
on this. I thought it would be an easy thing :)

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

In the end, the problem when fires what is not the real problem ;)
I recognized that i tried to build a workaround for a workaround.
Because my mud did not like the automapper, i had to fetch all info by myself.

This part works now Yehaaaaa :) but the whole thing only works if it is a complete new room.
I used my old map with currently 5000 rooms and i dont wanted to delete one room and reenter it
(but maybe i can write a script for that...) anyway i wanted to "mark time" (i dont know what its called in englisch but i mean i stay in the same room and trigger the walk command).
I even called the onRoomCreate event but i only get empty variables and then the script put these info in the room :(

maybe i should really write a script that deletes the room in the direction i am walking in and recreates it?
the part with disabling the trigger first when the alias starts and then opening the alias again did not work, i dont know why the variables are filles after the first run and the trigger should be disabled, i can see it in the editor but after the second run the variables are empty again :(

the script works if i disable the trigger manually after the first run?!

Ok too much text and maybe too bad englisch ;) sorry for that

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

To fix the rooms that already exist, I suggest writing a script that loops through all the rooms and does the changes you want. Use the %mapquery() function to create a list of all the room numbers, #forall to loop through them, and %roomXXX() functions to grab and modify the stuff you want. Once it's all done, you won't have to worry about it again.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

that would be the best thing to do really. But if i loop through the rooms i have the same problem. i don't know to use my current #TAG model to get to work because the whole script works linear.
1. movecommand recognized
2. grabbing each row for markers like exits etc.
3. putting all info in the rooms
4. adding all items to the database !!!
(and thats the difficult part, because i hab problems that items got added twice
or have been taken over to the next room...)

Ok, ill work on it :) i know i can make it ;))

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

And btw. the information i recorded earlyer in the map is "incorrect".
All informations are in the description hmm looping through the map
is'nt really entering the real room and collection the new data.

I really need to rewrite the roominfo if i am standing in the current room.

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Ah, if you can't simply loop through the rooms to fix the problem, then yeah, you'll need to reload room descriptions one by one, by visiting each one.

If the problem is that you need to reload the room description, why aren't you simply using the #LOOK command? Then you don't have to write any script at all.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

The #LOOK command does not work. I think it results in the selfmade automapper-scripts?
#FIND did not work too and the first problem all began with was the automapper that did not
recognize roomnames.

:)

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Well, then the problem is to get #LOOK to work. If #LOOK doesn't work, then #FIND won't work either, because it's based on exactly the same things. Exactly what is the problem with #LOOK? Can you post a few examples of the mud output for the rooms?

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

If i use the #LOOK command the script debugger shows this:

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

When you rewrite stuff for the mapper, the goal should be to make #LOOK work. If #LOOK isn't working, then almost none of the mapper functions dependent on room names and descriptions will work.

One thing I can already see that you need is a customized set of Directions. The default English Directions and English Keypad packages obviously won't work for you. Making a new custom German Directions package should be one of the first things you do, if you haven't aready. Then we can look at your #TAG triggers and see if we can get the #LOOK to work.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

Hi Rahab, if you really wanna go through all this with me to fix it here we go :) where should we start.
I have inserted my german directions and disabled the englisch ones. Is it possible to send you the complete
Package instead of posting every single script? Maybe its easier to look at the complete system.

btw. it all started with this post after switching from zMUD to CMUD ;)
http://forums.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35098

and i must tell you that i found a way to update my roominfo using 3 different scripts
1. load the current room info line by line into variables
2. lock my position on the map
3. insert infos into room

but I was'nt able to put all parts together to one script because the position on the map got lost and I ended up in
room 0 everytime. But if you say the LOOK command should work otherwise ill get into much more trouble.
Maybe you can make something out :D

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Basically, that whole thread was trying to help you get the #LOOK to work. The #TAG command helps the mapper figure out what the exits, room name, and description are when creating new rooms. #LOOK is simply a command to tell the mapper to regenerate the room name, description, and exits. So if #LOOK isn't working, then your work is not finished. Unless you are trying to do something else with it, your goal should not be to get the room information into a database, but to get the mapper to recognize it.

Have you solved the problem a crlf in the middle of your exits?

I'll take a closer look to see your code today.

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Can you post the actual text from a few room descriptions, so I can test your code? Be sure to include the prompt at the beginning and end.

Wizard Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2320

Oh, here's another question. After you wrote your triggers that used the #TAG commands, did you reconfigure the mapper? If you change any code that would affect how the mapper recognizes rooms, you need to reconfigure the mapper so that it knows about the changes.

Wanderer Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Hamburg

Hi sorry for my late answer, but i had to work :(
Ok here are some rooms ;) (btw. i reconfigured after every change)