Zugg Software :: View topic - Cmud 'composer' in conjuration with IRE games. ATCP composer.

Apprentice Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 178

I was wondering if there was any way to disable cmud's reaction to IRE's atcp command client.composer

can't seem to find anyway to disable it, anyone know of a way?

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:27 pm

You can turn off ATCP in the Preferences, but that turns off *all* ATCP support, not just the compose command.

Not sure why you want to turn off the CMUD editor feature though. Isn't it a *lot* easier to edit your message in the CMUD editor rather than in the command line IRE composer?

Apprentice Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 178

I suppose there's no real reason why I 'want' to do it, other then the editor acts weird at times, sometimes it scales its width to the text width of what it got and if I pull it to a wider width its only the window, not the editor itself that gets expanded. Though this seems to happen randomly. Which is why I would fall back on mudbots editor, it doesn't do that.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:50 pm

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Can you show a screenshot when it fails like that? The Editor window in CMUD remembers the size and position where it was last opened, so it shouldn't be auto-scaling at all.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:20 am

Apprentice Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 178

exactly the same problem, just with the editor in this case, if I resize it it won't change size.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:33 pm

Caled, try using the View/Reset layout to default menu command in the package editor. It looks to me like the docking system layout is screwed up. I don't have any trouble at all resizing the package editor here.

XonDK: Is your editor window docked? If so, try undocking it to see if it has the same problem resizing when it is undocked.

Apprentice Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 178

undocked, freefloating editor

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:09 am

Apprentice Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 178

that is exactly the problem.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:00 pm

OK, it looks like you are running some sort of Windows enhancement software. Your minimize/maximize/close icons do not look like standard Windows XP icons. So what other 3rd party software are you running? It's possible that is interferring with CMUD somehow. As I said, I cannot reproduce this problem on any of my XP or Vista computers.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:27 am

All I can see is that something called 'Nview desktop manager' is installed (part of nvidia settings). But when I go into that it asks me if I want to enable NVIEW, so its apparently switched off. That may be it, I'm unsure. I'll look into that a bit more. Xon, do you have any nvidia software installed on your system?

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:04 pm

I have the nVidia drivers/applications on my dual monitor setup. nView Desktop Manager shows pretty much everything greyed out and has the Enable button under the Desktop Management tab in the nView Desktop Manager section. Given this I definitely don't have the extra window controls that I would get if it was enabled, I can if required turn it on in order to do tests to see if it is definitely what is causing the problem. Caled if I were you I'd answer yes to enabling nView then specifically turn it off. Failing that working then try to delete all the profiles in the Profiles tab.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:20 pm

I've personally had problems with NView in the past myself with some other software applications. It's been a long time since I messed with it, but I definitely recommend trying to turn if off somehow and then reboot. You'll know whether it is turned off or not by looking at your window min/max/close icons to see if they are back to the XP standards or not.

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:56 am

An unfortunate incident this morning, involving coffee that did not stay in the cup where it was supposed to, made me replace my video card. So there is no more NVIEW anywhere that I can see. (New card is ati). The problem is still occurring. I sort of wonder if its XP-64?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:51 pm

Can you post another screenshot? I don't have XP64 so I guess in theory it's possible, but I think it's highly unlikely. The problem seems to be that Windows is not sending the WM_RESIZE message to the application properly, which is why I was wondering if some 3rd party software was intercepting this and changing how the window was being painted (since your screenshot showed non-standard buttons drawing on the window caption). So since it's a low-level issue with Windows messages, it's possible that XP-64 changed something, but I'd think a lot of other applications would break because of this, so I don't know why it's just effecting CMUD.

Have you tried doing a clean install of CMUD to a new directory to see if it still fails from there?

Wizard Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 1127 Location: London

Hmm, I wonder if it might be to do with Win64 actually, I had a problem that seemed to fall by the wayside a while ago
http://forums.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30647

It always occurred when the initial sessions window was resized... WM_RESIZE related?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:16 pm

Certainly seems like it is possibly related. Maybe in an update Microsoft changes something that avoids the system crash but ends up with the display problems shown in this thread instead? Sort of like if you just ignore an exception and let it go ahead and display however it wants.

Wizard Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 1127 Location: London

If I resize the editor window in Windows Server 2008 x64 I get this

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:08 pm

It seems that there *is* a problem with some software and Winx64 with window resizing. Here is a similar problem posted for Adobe Acrobat:
Client area doesn't resize with the window is resized on Vista
Another thread that was talking about this said:

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:05 pm

Okay, well thanks for putting in the time. Its not really much of an issue - if you start with the window at the size you want, it works properly anyway, and XP-64 is kind of just a hacked program in a way. If I could see a good reason to upgrade to Vista I would, but in the mean time I just put up with the quick/hack job MS did to make xp a 64 bit os.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:39 pm

No, don't give up yet. The problem is that Guinn posted means that the problem still exists in Vista x64.

Please read the post I gave above and check for something like the Logitech SetPoint program running in the background, or check the "Show window contents while dragging" setting also mentioned above. I'd like to find a workaround in case anyone else has this problem.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:47 am

Scouring the software list Belarc produces, the only thing I can see is -maybe-

Logitech GamePanel Software Version 2.02.101 *

(Software for G15 keyboard?)