Zugg Software :: View topic - [2.04] Mapping in Achaea (IRE) fresh install

Wanderer Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 93

Ok I ran the mapper in Achaea, an IRE mud, with ATCP on and it still captured exits wrong, though it always captures room names. What appears is happening is on multiline exits it doesn't refresh the last exits, so the new room ends up with the last room's exit pattern.

I will post my raw file of my mapping and put comments where the room exits were wrong, forcing me to do a LOOK to set the right exits.

Wanderer Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 93

The following image is an example of what is happening. I started in the southwest room and did a reconfigure using the direction Northeast. It moved there, and came up with the prompt pages for confirming information, though the room name, description, and exits were not colour coded at all. Upon clicking the finish in reconfigure, it created the northeast room, which other than the "in" direction mapped the exits properly. I then moved southwest, and it created the room with the correct room name, but the exits were the ones captured from the previous room.

I logged this as well and will post the log with this image.

RAW Log

Enchanter Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 511 Location: USA

For one, when you use ATCP for mapping you will not get the color coding as it shows the room text, not the codes.

Other than that, I'm at a loss. While I still get the occasional wrong exit sequence, it is very rare and the only problem I've really had is that sometimes it doesn't like to find the room I am in despite there not being a duplicate.

My suggestion is to start a clean session with no settings, then try configging the mapper first. If this works then the problem may be with the other settings in you main session.

Wanderer Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 93

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Are you sure you have ATCP switched on in Achaea? I don't know much about ATCP but I can't see any ATCP codes in the log you are calling the RAW log (which is actually the 'human readable' debug log, not the raw log - the raw log is unmodified). Or maybe you have the wrong terminal set in CMUD...

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:30 pm

Seb - you're arguing semantics that don't exist. Sometimes Zugg's had people call the human-readable log .raw, sometimes .txt. The replica of the text that came from the server has never been called .raw - always .txt.

Anyway. There are indeed ATCP codes there - here's a snippet:

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:20 pm

Also, check the MCCP compression setting in your Preferences. Looks like it is enabled (because of the in* in your log post).

I have been working with IronRealms on some bugs on Imperian when MCCP is enabled, and it's possible that those same bugs exist on Achaea also. On Imperian, it is buffering the ATCP stuff when MCCP is enabled, causing the room exits to be shown at the wrong time. So try turning off MCCP and then reconnect to the MUD and see if it works better then.

Wizard Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269

Wanderer Joined: 11 Mar 2002 Posts: 93

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:35 am

Novice Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 49

Yes, Lusternia has the same MCCP issue. I think it's a rapture problem or something. I've turned it off on all my sessions in both Achaea and Lusternia and ATCP works without a glitch. ..for what I need anyways. :)

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:04 am

The IronRealms folks are aware of the problem and are working on it. Once they have it fixed on Imperian, I'm sure it will get fixed on the other games too. Rapture doesn't actually use MCCP, so CMUD is the first ATCP+MCCP client to test this Smile

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:42 pm

It's not, actually - MudBot did as well. I've no idea how the problem was avoided in MudBot (which has its own mapper - I think it used ANSI colours rather tham ATCP to mark rooms). I definitely remember MCCP causing problems with the editor, though - MudBot had to turn off MCCP temporarily while the editor ATCP was received, and then turn it on again afterwards.

Wizard Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 1113 Location: USA

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:59 pm

Yeah, whatever the name of their Java MUD client is then.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:53 am

I expect not - I remember reading the MudBot docs and it mentions a preference that's the colour of your room name and exits lines, implying that that's what it uses. It's probable that the MCCP problem stopped them using the Room. objects altogether.