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Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

I just installed the latest build and I cannot launch any ZML apps anymore. It crashes before anything even loads.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:00 am

Well, you are right. Not sure why it worked within Delphi and doesn't work outside. Let me look into this for a bit to see if the problem is that PECompact stuff or not. Thanks for reporting this quickly!

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:08 am

Weird. Yep, the problem was once again with the PEBundle program. Last time we did this, I was able to bundle the SQLITE.DLL file. But now that doesn't work anymore. It causes the crash just like when I try to bundle other DLL files with zApp. So, it looks like I just need to throw out this PEBundle stuff. I'll just stick with the normal PECompact program from now on, and will force people to download any database drivers they might need separately.

Don't know why it worked before and not now, but if it's going to be flaky like this, I don't want to use it.

Anyway, the new version has been uploaded now so give it another try.

Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

Okay, it works without crashing now. I will take a closer look tomorrow.

Just an FYI: there are other apps that do the same thing as PEBundle that might work better, like Fusion, Alloy and another one ((I don't have the name with me.) They may be more reliable than PEBundle.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:23 am

The PEBundle author finally responded to the forum post about this problem and claims that he is working on PEBundle v4 and that is also supposed to fix it. So, I might just wait for that.

Also, remember that PEBundle *does* work if you use the normal mode where stuff is extracted to the disk. It's just the fancy "in memory" bundling that fails.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:25 am

Btw, any links for those other products would be appreciated. Unfortunately, "Fusion" and "Alloy" are rather common terms to Google for. With "Cold Fusion", even doing queries for Windows-related stuff doesn't work. Really bad name choices for their products I'm afraid.

Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

I agree. I'll get them for you tomorrow. I better get to bed.

Enchanter Joined: 10 Oct 2000 Posts: 698

http://www.bitarts.com/fusion.htm
http://www.sharewareconnection.com/alloy.htm

Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

Thanks, mr_kent, for posting those for me.

Also, Zugg, here is a place where you can purchase a Delphi library/source code for incorporating the binder functionality into ZAPP Pro: http://www.codeoffice.com/faq.htm. With source code it's $99. (Heck, include that ability in the normal ZAPP Razz

)

I was thinking it could be useful for the DLL binding idea.

EDIT TO ADD: Look! It's my 100th post! Cool

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:00 pm

Hmm, with Fusion, they have this "feature" listed:

Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

Zugg, there was one other binder that I am searching for that did the same thing as PEBundle (did not write to disk.) I will post that link when I find it.

Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

Got it! Here's the link to the other binder: http://www.molebox.com/

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:56 pm

Cool, that looks promising. I'll have to wait till I have more money before I can get it, but at least there is a free trial. It would be great if this even works with the elicense40.dll file, but I'd doubt it. But if it just works with the database DLLs, that would be great.

Wow, there seem to be a lot of products that perform this kind of function. I guess that pretty much eliminates any potential "run time" complaints. There seem to be lots of ways to get around it.

Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

Unfortunately, many developers are unaware of them.

Adept Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 277

Zugg, did you try MoleBox to see if it worked with the various DLLs you use? I noticed on their web site that they offer life-time updates.

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:58 pm

No, I haven't tried it yet. I've been buried in various bug fixes for the past few days. I'll take a closer look at this stuff towards the end of next week when I get close to packaging the public release.