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Belman
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:51 pm   

Can't see triggers/aliases/macros/etc...
 
Hello,

I can't seem to find the 'database' of triggers/aliases/macros/etc...

I can MAKE them, I just can't see the list of ones already made... and now I have difficulty disabling/enabeling them which is causing many problems when I join a group of friends to have some hack-n-slash fun, or when I pk.

This is getting rather annoying(not being able to turn spell triggers off, and being unable to enable the pk triggers to catch people ;)).

Just wondering if anyone can help me.

Belman
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LightBulb
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:41 pm   
 
The Settings Editor list usually has two parts, the Class tree on the left and the settings in the selected Class on the right. In addition, it usually includes the Edit window where individual settings are edited.

Between the two listings there is a divider bar with a button on it. Clicking the button will cause the Class tree to be hidden. Clicking the button again (it will be on the far left now) will bring the tree back into view.
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Belman
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:18 pm   
 
Um,

That doesn't help me. I'm trying to see the list of triggers/aliases/macros/etc. currently defined when I click on the trigger/aliases/macros/etc. button. Right now when I click on the button it acts like I'm clicking off of my zMUD window(I have to re-click on the zMUD window to input commands on the prompt).

I did what you said, and I can now remove the class tree(currently defined as none, so I'm not sure what happened), but that doesn't help with seeing the current triggers/aliases/macros/etc. that are defined.

Thank you again,
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DeReP
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:28 pm   
 
Do you have an extra window besides the main mud one? if so check you are not focusing it before opening the editor, that will bring up a new editor for that window.
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Belman
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:51 pm   
 
ok, I understand that... now how do I focus on the trigger/alias/macro/etc. 'database' window?

It used to be there, then suddenly it's now(I also lost my buttons for a short time... but got them back, just not the 'database' window) I can make and edit triggers/aliases/macros/etc. as long as I know the proper trigger/alias/macro/etc. to change(and some only vary by a space or 3...)

Thank you,
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Vijilante
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:01 pm   
 
You should have a row of buttons, in the Settings Editor, that list different type of settings; like Triggers, Aliases, Macros, Paths, etc. Make sure the All button on that toolbar is selected. That particular toolbar is a filter for when you want to find a setting of a specific type amongst all the others. Most likely it got set to Button by right-clicking a button, and then saved that state. I do it all the time, and still get confused for a few moments when it happens.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:29 pm   
 
Before going any furher, I'd like to be sure we are talking about the same thing.

http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/help7/SettingsEditor.jpg

This is a picture of the Settings Editor with the Class Tree hidden, the Edit Window docked on the right, and the Settings List on the left.

If I understand you correctly, you don't have any settings showing in the Settings List.

To be sure this is this case, first make sure you are using the Main window. Ignore the Tool Bar.
On the View menu, select All Settings...
This should open the Settings Editor with all setting types selected. It has its own set of menus, including another View menu.
On the View menu, select Show Hidden, Show Inherited, and All Classes.
This will show you every setting you have. If there aren't any, you don't have any settings to display.

EDIT: Replaced picture with link to picture. The picture is slightly too wide for 800x600 display
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Belman
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:05 am   
 
In the Settings Editor I get all of that, except I get NOTHING unless I have the 'Buttons' button clicked, and then that gives me junk like

NAME TYPE VALUE
(ab)Class Button #MENU {View|Class}

and so on and so forth for all the buttons. if I don't click on the 'Buttons' button or on the all button I get squat. And the edit button/window goes blank. I can get to the Settings Editor, then click elsewhere on the zMUD window, and the editor disappears... yet I can get back to it(because I've done it about a million times now) I just want to be able to get to the window that has the list of my triggers and whatnot.

Thank you,
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LightBulb
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:59 am   
 
It sounds like you are looking at global.mud which contains the scripts for the main Toolbar buttons. This is a system file and should be left unchanged. It would help to know the exact method you use to open the Settings Editor.

Check the caption at the top of the Settings Editor. It will say, "Settings in ...". If the caption ends with a filename, you are looking at a settings file instead of your current settings. Close the Settings Editor, then reopen it by clicking Edit Settings... on the Settings menu. It should now say, "Settings in Memory".

If the caption already says, "Settings in Memory" and all you have are the toolbar buttons you've messed things up seriously.

Close all your characters to return to the character selection screen.
Select your character and click the Edit button. Go to the Files tab.
Make sure the Primary mudfile is NOT global.mud, default.mud, or any other system file. It should be something like achaea.mud or belman.mud.
Once you have a suitable filename assigned, Save.

Open the character offline.
Open the Settings Editor by clicking Edit Settings... on the Settings menu.
If necessary, select All Classes.
The caption at the top of the editor should say, "Settings in Memory"

The Settings List should now list the default settings and any additional settings which have been defined. It may be easier to read if you click the List button instead of the Details button. The default settings include 8 classes (folder icon), 7 aliases (abc icon), 11 macros (A-key icon), and 10 directions (compass icon).
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Belman
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:16 am   
 
Ok... I am looking at the global.mud settings. I can't change the settings to the current mud though. I go to file, then click open, find the mud file and try to open it, and nothing happens. Please help me. I am able to 'undock' the charcter window, and see if there is a window behind it, but there isn't. and it's driving me crazy.

Any assistance, and the assistance I have recieved so far, is greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

PS- This has taught me a LOT more about the program, stuff I didn't think I'd ever need to know is now kinda second hand(and how I screwed this up I have no freakin' clue).
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LightBulb
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:46 pm   
 
First make sure that you haven't used global.mud as your mudfile. I gave you step-by-step instructions above, starting with "Close all your characters to return to the character selection screen".

Second, open the Settings Editor using Edit Settings... on the main window's Settings menu. If you already have the Settings Editor open and you are looking at the global.mud settings, close the editor then reopen it using the Settings menu. The File menu won't help you reach the settings in memory.
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Belman
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:57 am   
 
Ok, I did that, the mud is Dark Skies. and the 'character' folder has the current character properties as SubFolder DarkSkies |Primary DarkSkies.mud | GodWarsdystopia.MUD. Yet, when I open that OFFLINE/ONLINE, and right-click on the char/trigger/alias/macro buttons and select customize, it still shows as Settings in File: global.mud, and I am unable to File/Open and select DarkSkies.mud. I have found the DarkSkies.mud file, yet when I click open, it doesn't change from global.mud to DarkSkies.mud. Also... if I undock the OFFLINE/ONLINE character window from the File/Edit/View/etc. tool bar I don't see a window behind that with anything in it, unless I click the character/preferences/map/database buttons again, everything else gets me nothing except to have to alt-tab or click back on the zMUD window(they all open their own windows, the others do nothin')

I can't change the global.mud as my settings for some reason, which is really weird.

Thank you,
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LightBulb
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:37 am   
 
quote:
I ... right-click on the char/trigger/alias/macro buttons and select customize...

If this is how you open the Settings Editor, you will get global.mud every time, since you are trying to "customize" the main tool bar.

To open the Settings Editor to the settings in memory, LEFT-click one of the buttons, such as Triggers or Aliases or Macros!
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Belman
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:06 pm   
 
When I left-click on everything except characters/preferences/map/database buttons I get nothing, and their settings editor windows don't open. to make a trigger/alias/macro I have to either #TRIGGER/#ALIAS/#MACRO or go to the Action menu and select the appropriate one, because when I left-click on any of the buttons, except the above, I get NOTHING other than zMUD acting like I'm clicking over to a non-zMUD window.

Thank you,
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LightBulb
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:10 pm   
 
You probably changed the Tool Bar buttons while you were trying to figure out what was wrong. Go ahead and right-click Settings, then select Customize. I'll give you the scripts for all the buttons except the four which still work. These should all be Push buttons. Also make sure that all the buttons have a green dot (Enabled) at the bottom. If the dot is gray (Disabled), double-click it.

Caption: Settings
Value: #MENU {View|All}

Caption: Classes
Value: #MENU {View|Classes}

Caption: Aliases
Value: #MENU {View|Aliases}

Caption: Variables
Value: #MENU {View|Variables}

Caption: Paths
Value: #MENU {View|Paths}

Caption: Triggers
Value: #MENU {View|Triggers}

Caption: Macros
Value: #MENU {View|Macro keys}

Caption: Buttons
Value: #MENU {View|Buttons}

Caption: Quit
Value: #MENU {File|Exit}

Once you've corrected the Tool Bar, you should have no further need to customize it. Use left-click in the future.
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Belman
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:48 pm   
 
Actually no.

Those settings aren't what's changed. What has changed is the WINDOWS that used to open when clicking on the buttons at the top of the screen. Now I get no windows(except for the previously mentioned), only zMUD acting like I'm clicking on a different program. While I understand that you're supposed to go #TRIGGER {} {}... I still like to be able to open the trigger 'settings' and change a specific trigger -vs- having to 'recreate' the trigger, because that leaves room for errors on my part, and makes it difficult to then TURN OFF or disable a trigger that has multiple variables in it(spelling and whatnot).

Not sure how to be more specific, because it's still not workin'

Thank you,
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Loto
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:14 pm   
 
This could be stupid and not possible, but maybe you made it fully transparent? I know theres an option to make some things transparent.
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